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Offline Jon

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Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« on: July 24, 2011, 11:16:08 PM »
Search engine optimisation is always changing, it is like game of cat and mouse between the SEO world and the search engines, the nexus of course being Google. 

As time goes by, Google’s algorithm is always undergoing changes, but two things that always seem to be constant are content and links.  Even then there are various tricks and techniques that you should know about and soem you should avoid.

Here are a few of those naughty tricks you should avoid and if your SEO company do any of these things, question them, better still . . .RUN AWAY!

Keyword Stuffing – This is the technique of ‘stuffing’ your target keywords in title tags, description tags and alt tags, etc.  In the past, keyword stuffing worked a treat, but that was in the 90’s and is now frowned upon and can lead you to bother by at least having your page ignored or ranked extremely low.

Reciprocal Links – Links are, even today, the main factor that indicate to the search engines that a site is of interest to more people, the more links you have, the higher your page ranks.  But reciprocal links (you give me a link and I’ll return the favour) are easily spotted by the engines and whist they will be spidered, perhaps even indexed, they will most likely not provide you with much in the way of rankings.  One way links are by far better than reciprocal links and even then, they need to be from related web pages.

Mass-submission – You know the offers, I’m sure you will have seen them, perhaps even been tempted to try them out.  DON’T!   It’s not big and it certainly isn’t clever.  Whilst the idea of having your website submitted to 1,000 directories & 500 search engines may sound ideal, it isn’t and will most likely see you site dropped like a stone.

Page footer site wide links – This technique can often be handy and is primarily designed to promote search engines to quickly get around your website and the use of keywords in the links’ anchor text, can have a positive effect on those keywords rankings.   However, if you over egg this, it can have a negative effect.  So always make sure you are using footer links in moderation – design them to be useful and not overbearing for your visitors and you may get it right,

Super high keyword density – It’s vital you have your keywords/keyphrases featuring in your page content, that’s pretty obvious, but overdo it to your peril.  Again, if you can do this with your readers in mind instead of just the search engines, you should be on the right track.
Here’s an example using Dave’s Dog Collar Shop.

Bad Dave’s home page introduction is like this:

“Dave’s Dog Collar Shop is the best dog collar shop of them all.  Our dog collars are for dogs that want collars and so trust us, you have come to the dog collar shop that is the dogs when it comes to dog collars”

Yep, not only does it read so badly that your average reader will be scared off, but it’s an open and shut case of extreme keywords density and will get you in bother.

Here’s good Dave’s introduction:

“Hello and welcome to Dave’s Dog Collar Shop.  Our dog collars are sourced from all over the worlds and come in all kinds of sizes, styles and colours.  From Jack Russells to Great Danes, if you have a pooch, we’ve got a dog collar for you.”

As you can see, this reads well and will work for your readers and the search engines - As long as you sell dog collars of course.

Header tag abuse – The h1, h2, h3 tags etc. are key in providing a style that is consistent across all your pages and these header tags really help your users to quickly identify the subject and sub-subjects on your pages and they also serve the purpose of telling the search engines the same thing.  However, if your pages have numerous occurrences on a h1 tag for example (on a single page), then it can be seen as search engine manipulation, so avoid this one also.   

Incorrect user of h tags can be done unwittingly by the novice html’er, so if you think that could be you, check your code.

There are many more search engine techniques that can land you in both, but these are some of the common ones and unsurprisingly all of the above are still around today.

Because of the nature of search engine optimisation and the constant evolution of search engine algorithms, you must always be up to date on which techniques are considered good (white hat) or bad (black hat), so here’s a few tips to help you decide which advice to take and which to drop.

  • Get a second opinion – This should always be done if you are not up to scratch on your SEO skills.  So after receiving advice, consider visiting an SEO or web marketing forum and ask some of their members.   If it’s dodgy, they will definitely tell you
  • Check if the advice is new - When you search for SEO resources and advice on the search engines, always try to identify how old the article is.  What may have been acceptable a few years ago, may no longer be acceptable today, so always make sure your advice is as up to date as possible.
  • Seek testimonials – Any SEO company worth their salt will be able to provide you with details of some of their past clients.  Check out those clients’ websites to see how they rank.  See if you can prove the site was definitely worked on by the SEO company.
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Do you use any of the above techniques? 

Have you prevailed or suffered?

If you want to share your experiences of bad SEO, we’re always interested to know.

John

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 09:13:14 AM »
I agree with the all over methodologies you have mentioned in your post and it will be good guidelines for the SEO freshers who all are learning.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 11:56:28 AM »
Indeed and as I mentioned, our readers need to know that these are by no means ALL the pitfalls as there are many more to highlight and discuss, but this is certainly a good start.

Feel free to throw in any other less obvious techniques to avoid.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 01:10:22 AM »
Submitting the same article to article directories over and over again will kill your seo. Make sure you spin the article enough so Google can not recognize it.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 08:12:59 AM »
It's a good point and these days more than ever.

It is suggested that Google identifies duplicate content as it knows that articles do get redistributed, such is their nature, and then identifies which of those articles is the oldest, then giving credit to the article it sees as being the original and taking it away from the distributed copies.

So yes, spin those articles so this duplication is not seen.

Using sites like CopyScape can be a great way to test your new spun version of an article as it counts word duplication as it's main indicator so you know if your spun version still has a 60% match (for example) then you may not have spun your article enough.


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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 09:13:32 AM »
Yeah keyword stuffing is a definitely a big one and is still popular among outdated websites as well as shady SEO so-called experts.

I tend to wander off a bit sometimes though but always proofread my stuff to make sure that it's human readable as suggested since that's really the best guideline. If it makes sense to a person, should be good for Google although caution should still be used to make sure the density is spread out well.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 11:14:48 AM »
There are also keyword density tools all over the net, which analyse your web page and show you in simple form how much of your page is populated by your keywords compared to the rest of the content.

But, be sure you don't get involved in trying to strike that perfect level of density because it's nonsense to think that algorithms penalise you purely for being above/below x% density.  That may have been the case years ago, but times have moved on and algorithms are a lot more advanced than that.  The other reason you shouldn't get sucked in is because by the time you have misguided yourself into believing you have found that sweet density level, you could have produced a lot more good quality content for your website.

All this said, if you do see that your keywords feature in your pages with a dizzy-heights density, then you probably already know you are stuffing your keywords.

SEO Book provides a nice, simple keyword density tool and at the same time, a few tips on how to use keyword density tools to your advantage, that mainly being to benefit your keyword research.

What tools do you use to develop your keyword strategy? 

Do you even have a strategy in place?  It's amazing how many people don't.

« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 11:16:58 AM by Jon »

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 10:02:27 PM »
some I have to say is basic knowledge but it could just be me.

Great list sure will help lots of people.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2011, 08:50:57 PM »
Yes, to some it's all basic knowledge, but lots of people still use some of these techniques.


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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2011, 02:52:17 AM »
I use the footer linking method on some of my sites but now I am going with links on the footer that a footer usually contains like "advertise", "about", contact and etc.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2011, 06:42:32 PM »
I use the footer linking method on some of my sites but now I am going with links on the footer that a footer usually contains like "advertise", "about", contact and etc.

Nothing wrong with a few footer links pointing to key pages, as long as its not overdone and not too keyword-stuffy.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 08:40:43 PM »
Good information, too many people make mistakes when originally starting out that doom them to fail no matter what they do.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2011, 01:34:35 AM »
Very good tips given here.
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Super high keyword density – It’s vital you have your keywords/keyphrases featuring in your page content, that’s pretty obvious, but overdo it to your peril.  Again, if you can do this with your readers in mind instead of just the search engines, you should be on the right track.
Here’s an example using Dave’s Dog Collar Shop.
I think this is one of the most common mistakes people make soon as they think they've figured out what SEO actually is. Keywords and phrase should appear in textual content in a natural manner. I think this is something you get better at with writing articles.

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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 02:18:54 PM »
Some good advice guys, here is my opinion/experiences for what its worth.

First and foremost, off site SEO will do you no harm, it may not do you any good, but you will NEVER be penalised for bad off site SEO.
Why? its simple; Black hat SEO used to be a real problem for search engines, then, some bright spark realised that if you only count positive off site SEO then most black hat SEO and more importantly negative SEO doesn't work, so for the most part off site black hat SEO doesn't work.
So if your competitor spams the link farms with your URL it will not have a negative affect.

I say for the most part, again, if you apply basic logic. For example, building your back links too quickly on a new site will probably do you harm, its very unlikely that it would be a competitor doing this as with a new site you dont really have many competitors, its far more likely to be the site owner. So be careful.

As someone as already said, most of it is logical, if you consider the purpose of any SE is to return the most relavent result to its searchers, then its not rocket science.
If there are ways that boarder on cheating or methods that bend the rules be aware that they may work now, but sooner or later the search engines will put a stop to it.

Directories used to be one of those, the net was full of directories selling page rank, we used to have a network of over 140 directories, they earned us a lot of money and used to be great for improving our and our clients SERPs, but i always knew it was short lived, then came the day, google downgraded all but a few directories, PR4/5s and 6s dropped to zero overnight.
What i didnt realise then was any directories that stood the test of time and kept their doors open would eventually gain some credibility again, they will never be as they was, when this happened we cleared most of our directories but kept a few for old times sake, they have now gained some cred and are starting to make money again.

But the point is, all the above was logical if you think about it, SE didnt want to kill directories all together as there are some that are good and useful, so, they downgraded them, all the ones that where for the sole purpose of selling/giving page rank fell by the way-side once their PR disappeared and they had nothing to sell,
So what they did was resolve the problem, any directories that kept trading now have a little bit of cred back, now future directories will find it more difficult to climb the ladder, but directories that are older, established prior to the sort out have more cred, an easy thing for them to implement with their algorithms.
The same thing happened to forums a long time ago.

Which brings me to another point to watch out for, footer links, for some time google as not been happy with footer links being abused, an example being theme sites insisting on a link in the footer, quite a while ago they penalised manually some of the big theme/skin sites, this was the sign of things to come, I personally feel the google algorithm already gives less weight to footer links that repeat on several sites.
Whilst there is a legitimate purpose for these links to give recognition to software/theme/skins sites and programmers, it will no longer manipulate the SERPs by being given weight.

reciprocal links: Whilst they in no way compare to one way links, i beleive they do give some juice, of course they must be on subject, but, the best links are those that carry more weight, you can get a site to the top of google with just a few high quality links that carry weight, of course this depends on the niche and competition.
I was once debating this point on another marketing forum, to prove the point I got a website in the top 3 at google with 4 links.

Here is a tip, find the hub for your niche, get a one way link from that site to yours, even if you have to pay for it and watch the effect on your SERPs
Dont take my word for it, try it!




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Re: Dangerous search engine optimisation techniques to avoid
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2011, 02:53:09 PM »
Very good, quality information about SEO especially from Jon and Castle.
Keep up the good work and share as much as you can with us.
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